SaucyRossyBBQ KCBS Helper

← All events

Silver Lake Apple BBQ Festival 2017

Sep 8–9, 2017 · Silver Lake, MI · 📍 8453 W Silver Lake RD

🥇
682.8344 · Master Series — Overall
🥈
681.7484 · Master Series — Overall
🥉
681.6684 · Master Series — Overall

FIREHOUSE SMOKE won Grand Champion at the Silver Lake Apple BBQ Festival on September 8, 2017 in Silver Lake, MI at 8453 W Silver Lake RD, scoring 682.8344 in a field of 28 teams. BIG BROTHERS BBQ took Reserve Grand Champion with 681.7484. Category winners: Chicken — PapaDads BBQ (174.8572); Pork Ribs — BIG BROTHERS BBQ (173.7600); Pork — MUTTS & BUTTS BARK-BQ (175.4400); Brisket — SMOLDERING Q (173.7028). This is the 4th of 5 editions of this contest on record; the 2015 edition was won by MAC ATTACK BBQ; the next was held in 2018.

The contest at a glance (read off the scored boards)

How the field scored

Overall totals, every team on the board — tall stacks are where the pack sat.

How the meats cooked

Every board on one scale — the bar runs last score to first, the dot is the median.

  • Chicken 174.86
  • Pork Ribs 173.76
  • Pork 175.44
  • Brisket 173.70
138.30 175.44

Winning score by edition

What it has taken to win here, 2013 to 2018 — this edition picked out.

2013-09-13 — 693.6684 (CANCERSUCKSCHICAGO.COM) 2014-09-12 — 708.6056 (iBQ'n@TheBBQSuperStore.com) 2015-09-11 — 699.4744 (MAC ATTACK BBQ) 2017-09-08 — 682.8344 (FIREHOUSE SMOKE) 2018-09-14 — 694.2512 (BIG "E" BBQ) 682.83 2013 2018

Entries

28
4 judged meats · 2 ancillary

Top score

682.8344

Winning margin

1.0860
GC over RC

Field average

648.29
471.45682.83
median 657.06 · last place to winner

Perfect 180s

0

Tightest race

Brisket
1.6800 pts across the top 5

Top-10 cutoff

665.6688
471.45682.83
10th place overall

Field spread

211.3832
winner to last place

Most consistent

avg finish 5.75 across 4 meats

Double threats

6
teams with 2+ top-5 calls

Widest winning margin

Chicken
won by 1.6800 pts — PapaDads BBQ

How hot was the win?

Top 85%
beats 15% of 4711 Master Series wins in the data

Came back for more

44%
15 of 34 teams from the previous edition returned

Form held

Strong
ρ = -0.75 between pre-contest rating and finish

Field strength

1,584
avg power rating going in · stronger than 67% of contests

Top-rated in the field

rated 1833 pre-contest

Storylines (4 found in this contest's numbers)

Everything below is read straight out of the results — the number on each card is the one that made it a story.

A razor-thin finish

1.0860 points between champion and reserve

Closer than 85% of the 4,710 championships in the data

The Grand Championship was decided by 1.0860 points — closer than 85% of every championship in the data.

  • FIREHOUSE SMOKE
  • BIG BROTHERS BBQ

An upset on the books

30-in-100 shot on pre-contest ratings

The ratings favoured the top seed the other 70 times in 100

FIREHOUSE SMOKE came in rated below the field's top team, iBQ'n, and took the Grand Championship anyway — roughly a 30-in-100 shot on pre-contest ratings.

  • champion 1683
  • top seed 1833

Won without a category win

4 of 4 meats called to the stage

FIREHOUSE SMOKE won the Grand Championship without winning a single meat — 4 calls from 4 boards, best of them 3rd. Consistency beat fireworks.

  • Chicken 8th
  • Pork Ribs 6th
  • Pork 6th
  • Brisket 3rd

Photo finishes

Tie closest of 10 calls decided inside half a point

Chicken places 4–5: SLIPPERY PETE'S BBQ and GOT SMOKE BBQ tied on 171.4400 — settled by the KCBS tiebreaker. Pork places 8–9: PB&J'S BBQ TEAM and TWO CRACKERS Q'ING tied on 169.1200 — settled by the KCBS tiebreaker. Brisket places 1–2: SMOLDERING Q and THE REAL SMOKIN ACES tied on 173.7028 — settled by the KCBS tiebreaker.

  • Chicken 4–5 · tie
  • Pork 8–9 · tie
  • Brisket 1–2 · tie
  • Brisket 2–3 · tie

Score curves (score by finishing position — steep cliffs mean a spread field, flat lines a knife fight)

Category showdown (top / average / median score per meat)

Biggest rating movers (power-rating points won and lost at this contest)

Did form hold? (pre-contest rating vs overall finish — ratings called it if the dots climb to the right)

This contest over the years full contest page →

DateWhereVenueTeamsHigh scoreGrand ChampionReserve Champion
Sep 13, 2013 Mears, MI Mears, MI 47 693.6684 CANCERSUCKSCHICAGO.COM iBQ'n
Sep 12, 2014 Mears, MI Mears, MI 49436 43 708.6056 iBQ'n@TheBBQSuperStore.com BIG BROTHERS BBQ
Sep 11, 2015 Mears, MI Mears, MI 49436 34 699.4744 MAC ATTACK BBQ SMOKIN' IN THE D
Sep 8, 2017 ← this one Silver Lake, MI 8453 W Silver Lake RD 28 682.8344 FIREHOUSE SMOKE BIG BROTHERS BBQ
Sep 14, 2018 Mears, MI 8453 W Silver Lake RD 48 694.2512 BIG "E" BBQ BIG BROTHERS BBQ

What a call cost (the score it took to finish 1st, 5th and 10th)

Category1st5th10th
Chicken174.8572171.4400168
Pork Ribs173.7600169.7028166.2628
Pork175.4400171.4172168.6400
Brisket173.7028172.0228169.1428

Official results on kcbs.us ↗

Master Series

Overall

28 entries · top 682.8344 · median 657.0570

#TeamScore
1 FIREHOUSE SMOKE 682.8344
2 BIG BROTHERS BBQ 681.7484
3 THE REAL SMOKIN ACES 681.6684
4 SLIPPERY PETE'S BBQ 679.9540
5 GOT SMOKE BBQ 676.7544
6 TWO CRACKERS Q'ING 674.2972
7 iBQ'n 671.9768
8 PB&J'S BBQ TEAM 670.2400
9 AWW HELL 666.8572
10 PapaDads BBQ 665.6688
11 SMOLDERING Q 664.5024
12 MUTTS & BUTTS BARK-BQ 663.9544
13 BAD HABIT BBQ 662.2400
14 SMOKE FREAKS 659.9084
15 BAVARIAN SMOKE BBQ 654.2056
16 THE BBQ SHERPAS 653.6000
17 SWEET RACKS & SMOKIN' BUTTS BBQ 651.9772
18 SMOKIN GOOD TIME BBQ 651.9428
19 S & G BBQ 645.0968
20 BAD WOLF BBQ 645.0516
21 THE MEAT RUBBERS BBQ 642.7768
22 JAYBIRD'S BBQ 642.2284
23 HABS GOOD EATS N' TREATS 637.7372
24 NOT-A-CLUE BARBEQUE 628.5144
25 HOLY SMOKERS MI 615.9772
26 B.O.S.S. BBQ 605.1204
27 Mad Hunky Meats 603.8284
28 BIG GUYS Q 471.4512

Chicken

27 entries · top 174.8572 · median 166.8572

#TeamScore
1 PapaDads BBQ 174.8572
2 TWO CRACKERS Q'ING 173.1772
3 BAD HABIT BBQ 172
4 SLIPPERY PETE'S BBQ 171.4400
5 GOT SMOKE BBQ 171.4400
6 THE REAL SMOKIN ACES 171.4284
7 BAVARIAN SMOKE BBQ 169.7256
8 FIREHOUSE SMOKE 169.1428
9 Mad Hunky Meats 168.5600
10 NOT-A-CLUE BARBEQUE 168
11 BIG BROTHERS BBQ 167.9656
12 PB&J'S BBQ TEAM 167.9656
13 iBQ'n 167.4056
14 MUTTS & BUTTS BARK-BQ 166.8572
15 SMOKE FREAKS 166.2972
16 THE BBQ SHERPAS 165.7028
17 HOLY SMOKERS MI 162.8800
18 BAD WOLF BBQ 162.8572
19 JAYBIRD'S BBQ 161.6800
20 HABS GOOD EATS N' TREATS 160.5944
21 AWW HELL 159.4172
22 SMOLDERING Q 159.4056
23 S & G BBQ 159.3828
24 SWEET RACKS & SMOKIN' BUTTS BBQ 158.2744
25 SMOKIN GOOD TIME BBQ 153.6228
26 THE MEAT RUBBERS BBQ 150.8228
27 B.O.S.S. BBQ 138.2972

Pork Ribs

28 entries · top 173.7600 · median 164.2684

#TeamScore
1 BIG BROTHERS BBQ 173.7600
2 GOT SMOKE BBQ 172.6628
3 SMOKE FREAKS 171.9656
4 SMOKIN GOOD TIME BBQ 171.4972
5 AWW HELL 169.7028
6 FIREHOUSE SMOKE 169.1200
7 THE MEAT RUBBERS BBQ 168.5484
8 iBQ'n 167.9656
9 BAD WOLF BBQ 166.8572
10 PB&J'S BBQ TEAM 166.2628
11 SLIPPERY PETE'S BBQ 166.2284
12 THE REAL SMOKIN ACES 165.1200
13 HOLY SMOKERS MI 164.6172
14 JAYBIRD'S BBQ 164.5484
15 SMOLDERING Q 163.9884
16 PapaDads BBQ 162.2860
17 SWEET RACKS & SMOKIN' BUTTS BBQ 161.7028
18 HABS GOOD EATS N' TREATS 161.6912
19 TWO CRACKERS Q'ING 160.5600
20 S & G BBQ 159.4628
21 THE BBQ SHERPAS 157.6456
22 BAD HABIT BBQ 156.5144
23 BAVARIAN SMOKE BBQ 154.8000
24 MUTTS & BUTTS BARK-BQ 153.0972
25 Mad Hunky Meats 149.1428
26 NOT-A-CLUE BARBEQUE 147.4060
27 BIG GUYS Q 146.8228
28 B.O.S.S. BBQ 144.4916

Pork

28 entries · top 175.4400 · median 166.8400

#TeamScore
1 MUTTS & BUTTS BARK-BQ 175.4400
2 SLIPPERY PETE'S BBQ 174.2856
3 SMOKIN GOOD TIME BBQ 173.1428
4 BAD HABIT BBQ 172
5 THE REAL SMOKIN ACES 171.4172
6 FIREHOUSE SMOKE 170.8688
7 S & G BBQ 170.2628
8 PB&J'S BBQ TEAM 169.1200
9 TWO CRACKERS Q'ING 169.1200
10 BIG GUYS Q 168.6400
11 SWEET RACKS & SMOKIN' BUTTS BBQ 168
12 BIG BROTHERS BBQ 168
13 iBQ'n 167.4628
14 SMOLDERING Q 167.4056
15 AWW HELL 166.2744
16 GOT SMOKE BBQ 165.1772
17 HABS GOOD EATS N' TREATS 163.4744
18 BAD WOLF BBQ 163.4056
19 PapaDads BBQ 160.5600
20 SMOKE FREAKS 159.3600
21 THE MEAT RUBBERS BBQ 158.2972
22 THE BBQ SHERPAS 158.2628
23 BAVARIAN SMOKE BBQ 156.5372
24 JAYBIRD'S BBQ 153.7028
25 NOT-A-CLUE BARBEQUE 152.5484
26 B.O.S.S. BBQ 150.8572
27 Mad Hunky Meats 142.2056
28 HOLY SMOKERS MI 141.6800

Brisket

28 entries · top 173.7028 · median 167.1830

#TeamScore
1 SMOLDERING Q 173.7028
2 THE REAL SMOKIN ACES 173.7028
3 FIREHOUSE SMOKE 173.7028
4 BAVARIAN SMOKE BBQ 173.1428
5 BIG BROTHERS BBQ 172.0228
6 THE BBQ SHERPAS 171.9888
7 B.O.S.S. BBQ 171.4744
8 AWW HELL 171.4628
9 TWO CRACKERS Q'ING 171.4400
10 iBQ'n 169.1428
11 MUTTS & BUTTS BARK-BQ 168.5600
12 SLIPPERY PETE'S BBQ 168
13 PapaDads BBQ 167.9656
14 GOT SMOKE BBQ 167.4744
15 PB&J'S BBQ TEAM 166.8916
16 THE MEAT RUBBERS BBQ 165.1084
17 SWEET RACKS & SMOKIN' BUTTS BBQ 164
18 JAYBIRD'S BBQ 162.2972
19 SMOKE FREAKS 162.2856
20 BAD HABIT BBQ 161.7256
21 NOT-A-CLUE BARBEQUE 160.5600
22 BIG GUYS Q 155.9884
23 S & G BBQ 155.9884
24 SMOKIN GOOD TIME BBQ 153.6800
25 HABS GOOD EATS N' TREATS 151.9772
26 BAD WOLF BBQ 151.9316
27 HOLY SMOKERS MI 146.8000
28 Mad Hunky Meats 143.9200

Ancillary categories

Run by the organizers alongside the sanctioned contest. These are judged on their own terms and do not count toward the overall score, so they're kept out of the meat stats above.

Master Series — Chicken Backyard

12 entries · top 171.4056 · median 165.1486

#TeamScore
1 SMOKIN BRICKS BBQ 171.4056
2 STILLS AND GRILLS 170.2744
3 DUTCH MAFIA BBQ 166.3200
4 BORCULO BBQ 165.7028
5 Q-JITSU 165.7028
6 UP IN SMOKE BBQ 165.1544
7 BREWIN-N-QUE-N 165.1428
8 SMOKIN WITH THE JOES 163.4400
9 Chupacabra BBQ 160.5372
10 It's in the Q 158.2512
11 DOUGS BACKYARD BBQ 157.7144
12 POPOVICK, NICK 149.6572

Master Series — Ribs Backyard

12 entries · top 174.8572 · median 163.4458

#TeamScore
1 UP IN SMOKE BBQ 174.8572
2 Q-JITSU 174.3316
3 DUTCH MAFIA BBQ 170.2972
4 SMOKIN WITH THE JOES 167.4056
5 It's in the Q 164.5940
6 BORCULO BBQ 164.0344
7 DOUGS BACKYARD BBQ 162.8572
8 SMOKIN BRICKS BBQ 162.8228
9 STILLS AND GRILLS 159.3944
10 POPOVICK, NICK 148.5600
11 BREWIN-N-QUE-N 145.6916
12 Chupacabra BBQ 145.0972

Heading out? 🔥

Are you sure you want to leave the KCBS Helper Tool and go to SaucyRossyBBQ.com?

Yes, take me there

Hey, I’m Ross

Most folks know me as SaucyRossyBBQ. I built this Helper App myself and put it out for free, because I wanted the tool to exist for our sport — no paywall, no account needed.

If you’ve got it in you to chip in, it means a whole lot. And if you’ve already bought me a coffee — thank you so much. Your support pays the server and hosting bills that keep a system like this running.

Buy me a coffee

You won’t see this again for a month. Now get back to it — good luck at your next cook. 🔥